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Kamado Joe Classic II vs The Bastard Urban Large Complete

What actually differs between the Kamado Joe Classic II and the The Bastard Urban Large Complete, and what that means for how you cook.

Our verdict

Today the difference is €50.00: the Classic II costs €1,199.00, the Urban Large Complete €1,249.00.

Two large ceramic kamados that are both supplied complete with a stand, so here you are finally comparing two similar packages. The grate is bigger on The Bastard: 49 centimetres against 45.7 on the Classic II, which works out at about 1,890 cm² against 1,613 cm².

What is in the box differs by brand. The Classic II has the two-level Divide & Conquer system, two ceramic heat deflectors, a slide-out ash drawer, the Kontrol Tower and the Air Lift hinge. The Urban Large has bamboo side shelves, a stainless steel charcoal basket, a plate setter and an ash tray. Both have a fibreglass gasket. The Urban Large weighs 116 kilos, the Classic II 103.3 kilos.

On warranty Kamado Joe wins: lifetime on the ceramic against twenty years at The Bastard, and two years on thermometer and gasket against one year on the thermometer and six months on the gasket. Both give five years on metal, though The Bastard splits that into five years outside and two years inside.

If you want the biggest grate with side shelves included, the Urban Large gives more area in a complete package. If warranty weighs heavily, or you want Kamado Joe’s cooking-level system, the Classic II is the better choice. Check which version of The Bastard you are buying: the same Large also exists as a Solo without a stand.

What differs

  • They are in the same size class (large), so look at the grate size for cooking surface.
  • Both ceramic.
  • Both supplied complete with a stand.
  • The Urban Large Complete’s grate is 3.3 centimetres larger in diameter.

Specifications side by side

Kamado Joe Classic IIThe Bastard Urban Large Complete
Stand/cartIncluded, 4 castors, 2 lockingIncluded
MaterialCeramicCeramic
GrateØ 45.7 cmØ 49 cm
Grill area1,613 cm²± 1,890 cm²
Maximum temperature398 °C—
Ceramic warrantyLifetime20 years
Weight103.3 kg116 kg
SizeLarge (18 inch)Large
In the boxWith standComplete (stand and side shelves)
Range—Urban
Side shelves—Bamboo
Charcoal basket—Stainless steel
Grate materialStainless steel—
Cooking levelsDivide & Conquer, two tiers—
Heat deflectorTwo ceramic platesPlate setter, included
Ash drawerSlide-out ash drawerAsh pan included
Top ventKontrol Tower, cast aluminium—
HingeAir Lift—
GasketFibreglass, double thicknessFibreglass (Infinity)
ThermometerIn the domeIn the dome
Warranty, other partsMetal 5 years, heat deflectors 3 years, thermometer and gasket 2 yearsOuter metal 5 years, inner 2 years, thermometer 1 year, gasket 6 months
Width117.4 cm149 cm
Depth—75 cm
Height121 cm133 cm
Model designationClassic IIUrban Large Complete

Who it suits

Kamado Joe Classic II

Anyone cooking weekly who wants the operating to be as good as the result.

The Bastard Urban Large Complete

Anyone who wants the standard size with everything included, without picking out a frame.

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